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In advance of a NAMMA regional meeting in Vancouver, BC, Dr. Jason Zuidema (Executive Director, NAMMA) met with Rev. Gary Roosma, Chaplain for the Ministry to Seafarers of the Christian Reformed Church. Following their one-on-one conversation, there was also an opportunity to address the full board of M2S Vancouver to discuss the challenges and opportunities facing the future of maritime ministry.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> We are here with Reverend Gary Roosma, who is of the Ministry to Seafarers of the Christian Reformed Church in Vancouver. Reverend Gary, thank you for this. Can you tell me a little bit about the Ministry to Seafarers?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> Good to be here with you, thanks. Ministry to Seafarers Vancouver is the Christian Reformed Church\u2019s outreach into the port here. We were founded in 1970 officially, full-time, but they had ministry happening before that by individuals and volunteers. The first full-time chaplain was in 1970, and we\u2019ve been involved in the port since then. We joined in a partnership relationship with Mission to Seafarers and the Apostleship of the Sea, or Stella Maris, in 1993 and have been involved ever since.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> Why is the Church involved in ministry to seafarers? This seems, perhaps at first blush, kind of strange. There are perhaps not missions to truck drivers, or there\u2019s perhaps not missions to hotel workers or other workers\u2014or perhaps even migrant workers. Why seafarers? What is peculiar about seafarers? And, I don\u2019t know, maybe should we have ministries to other categories of workers as well?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> I guess, but I think seafarers are a bit of a unique group, just by virtue of their whole situation. They\u2019re far from home. They are, you know, they\u2019re foreigners living\u2014or just here briefly, visiting. They don\u2019t get a lot of opportunities for spiritual input of any kind, unless they\u2019re somebody who\u2019s very active on board. So, it\u2019s just deemed a group that is pretty needy in terms of their whole setting, and their months away at sea. It started also as a service\u2014it\u2019s also a service organization, or service to the seafarers\u2014so helping them out with rides, and, you know, initially it was phone calls, international phone calls, and now internet service. But yeah, just a chance to help a group of people who can be somewhat marginalized and far from home.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema <\/strong>For those who don\u2019t necessarily know what chaplaincy is all about\u2014or even chaplaincy to seafarers\u2014what does a chaplain to seafarers do that\u2019s perhaps similar to what a regular minister might do? And in what ways is your work different than what a regular minister might do?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> It\u2019s similar in terms of pastoral care\u2014we\u2019re connecting with people and sort of meeting their needs, trying to encourage them, comfort them, whatever the case may be. So that would be a very similar kind of thing. It\u2019s probably more evangelistic in terms of\u2014there are a lot of people who are also not Christians, who are just looking for connection or just, you know, happy to be served and to have a friend, and to be listened to, and have a listening ear.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s different also in that I don\u2019t do regular services in one parish. I do services in lots of churches as part of the ministry and representing the ministry, but I don\u2019t have a regular parish. And I see people\u2014often I may see them once and then never see them again, or I may see them again in a few years, or whatever. Some are more regular\u2014they\u2019re here for a while on a regular schedule and we see them\u2014but then they sign off and then they\u2019re gone. So you don\u2019t have that regularity; you don\u2019t have a regular parish and congregation that you\u2019re serving.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> How long have you served now with the Ministry to Seafarers?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> Coming up to eight years\u2014over seven and a half years. In September\u2014it\u2019s May now\u2014so in September, I\u2019ll have been here eight years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> You are at\u2014I was about to say\u2014you\u2019re at “peak” wisdom! You have some good insight now, after having been around in ministry for a while, and also here in the seafarers\u2019 missions world for a while. What wisdom would you share, if you could, with\u2014I suppose\u2014new chaplains, but I think also just regular ministers, ministers who are serving in congregations and in \u201cregular\u201d congregational settings? What\u2019s the insight that you would have for new ministers about ministry in general? What kind of nuggets of wisdom have you learned in seafarers\u2019 ministry?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> I think I\u2019m still learning, so I still have lots more to learn. I think one of the key things that I\u2019m figuring out more and more is\u2014and I\u2019m the kind of personality that likes to be on a schedule, get my job done, work through things, and keep on that schedule\u2014and I\u2019ve learned not to expect anything schedule-wise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m learning to slow down in terms of going on board and being open to whatever the Lord has in store in that setting, on that ship. And to be open to that. That\u2019s not my typical personality, so I\u2019ve had to learn that. Other people probably would find it easier to go with the flow like that. But anyway, that\u2019s something I\u2019ve had to very much learn to adjust to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I think there\u2019s lots to learn in terms of learning how to work with people from different faiths\u2014and how do we interact and relate to them as believers, and yet also just really have a caring heart for them. I\u2019m learning to guard my language, my speech\u2014to be less religious, less \u201cChristianese,\u201d and to be a little bit more understanding of the terms that they may not understand at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> Your comment about learning how to slow down is interesting because it actually links to the second one as well. How do you intentionally have a schedule that is flexible? In fact, it takes a lot of work to be flexible, because someone might look at you and say, \u201cWell, he\u2019s just being lazy,\u201d or it looks like something else. To the uninitiated, it looks like you\u2019re just taking it easy and mailing it in and not really doing it. And that seafarers\u2019 ministry can look like that in a certain context\u2014where it looks like you\u2019re just not doing a whole lot of anything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> And it can feel like that, even.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> So how do you train the muscles of being relaxed\u2014or being able to easily pivot, being able to adapt to any situation that is thrown at you?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> I\u2019m not sure I\u2019m so good at easily adapting to situations, but I think I just go on board\u2014I have to consciously go on board with a really open mind to whatever. Not necessarily thinking I\u2019m going to get on and off because I\u2019ve got another ship to go visit. Maybe I won\u2019t make it to the next ship, because this ship needs it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Also, I kind of have to think, \u201cOkay, I need to just be here for a while and take some time.\u201d Now, obviously, there are exceptions. You go on board and there\u2019s a PSC inspection going on, or customs is just on board, and they\u2019re like, \u201cWe don\u2019t need you here,\u201d and then it\u2019s, \u201cOkay, I\u2019ll come back later.\u201d So you still have to be open to that kind of thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But I think I just have to be very conscious about the fact that maybe I need to just sit here for a while. Even if there\u2019s no one there, or there\u2019s one person there, I\u2019ll just hang out for a little bit and see if someone else shows up. It\u2019s also finding the right time to visit\u2014and I\u2019m still learning. Every ship is different. Every context is different. Sometimes it is hit and miss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But I just have to be thinking in that mode. Again, it\u2019s not my personality, so I have to be thinking, \u201cOkay, what [can I do here]?\u201d And also taking time to just pray. Simply pray at times and just say, \u201cOkay Lord, do you have someone here for me to meet?\u201d And then seeing who shows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> The ministry, as you mentioned, has been in this official ecumenical relationship for a number of years\u2014unofficially, for many years even before that. It\u2019s interesting to note\u2014and this would be different than perhaps other \u201cregular\u201d ministers and congregations\u2014that you physically work alongside your colleagues on a daily basis from other denominations: from the Anglican and Catholic Churches, but also other various denominations that work in port ministry, in the same space. How does that form your daily work, and how has that been useful for you\u2014even spiritually, I want to say?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> Oh, I think it\u2019s been great. I wouldn\u2019t trade it for anything. I mean, I still rub shoulders with a lot of my Christian Reformed colleagues during meetings, classes, things like that when we get together\u2014but to be able to connect with\u2026 I mean, again, my whole life I\u2019ve been in missions, so I worked with other denominations, and I\u2019ve always worked in that kind of a context. So for me, moving into this position was not a big adjustment. But I think it has enriched me in terms of appreciating the richness of other traditions and what they bring, and seeing how they work. And being able to work together\u2014to me, it\u2019s been very, very fulfilling. So I wouldn\u2019t trade it for anything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jason Zuidema<\/strong> Thank you very much, Gary, for your time. It\u2019s been wonderful to speak with you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gary Roosma<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s been good to connect again\u2014and to be able to share. Thanks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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